Ahmad 6518

Its chain of transmission is sahih. Ibn Ajlan is Muhammad bin Ajlan Madani Qurashi, one of the learned scholars who acted upon their knowledge. We have already established his reliability at 611, and we add here that he was deemed reliable by Sufyan bin Uyayna, Ahmad, Ibn Main, and others. Bukhari gave his biography in al-Kabir 1/196-197. It is reported from Ibn Madini, from Ibn Abu Wazir, from Malik, that he mentioned Ibn Ajlan and spoke well of him.Amr bin Shuayb bin Muhammad bin Abdullah bin Amr bin As is a well-known reliable follower (tabii). He heard from Zaynab bint Abu Salama and from Rabee bint Muawwidh, who was a companion, as Mizzi stated. There is no doubt that Amr bin Shuayb is reliable, and whoever criticized him did so without evidence. Nor is there any doubt that he heard from his father Shuayb.Rather, what was criticized was Amr bin Shuayb's narration from his father from his grandfather, and people split hairs over this in an unacceptable manner. Some claimed that his saying "from his grandfather," if he meant Amr's grandfather, that would be Muhammad bin Abdullah bin Amr, who was not a companion, and if he meant Shuayb's grandfather, that would be Abdullah bin Amr. I do not see any room for doubt or uncertainty here, for what is meant in these chains is Abdullah bin Amr the companion, who is Shuayb's grandfather, and who is also the ultimate grandfather of Amr bin Shuayb.Shuayb was young when his father Muhammad bin Abdullah bin Amr died, so his grandfather Abdullah bin Amr raised him. Shuayb often referred to Abdullah bin Amr as his father, and there is no doubt that a grandfather is a father.Hakim reported in al-Mustadrak 1:197, 500, with his chain, from Ishaq bin Rahawayh, who said, "When the narrator from Amr bin Shuayb is reliable, then it is like Ayub narrating from Nafi from Ibn Umar."He also reported at 2:47, with his chain, from Muhammad bin Ali bin Hamdan Warraq, who said, "I said to Ahmad bin Hanbal, 'Did Amr bin Shuayb hear anything from his father?'" He said, "He is Amr bin Shuayb bin Muhammad bin Abdullah bin Amr, and it has been established that Amr bin Shuayb heard from his father, and it has been established that Shuayb heard from his grandfather Abdullah bin Amr."Daraqutni reported something similar from him (p. 310), and also reported after that, from Abu Bakr Nisaburi, who said, "Amr bin Shuayb bin Muhammad bin Abdullah bin Amr bin As, it has been established that Amr bin Shuayb heard from his father, and it has been established that Shuayb heard from his grandfather Abdullah bin Amr."He then reported from Muhammad bin Hasan Naqqash, from Ahmad bin Tamim, who said, "I said to Abu Abdullah Muhammad bin Ismail Bukhari, 'Did Shuayb, the father of Amr bin Shuayb, hear from Abdullah bin Amr?'" He said, "Yes." I said to him, "Then regarding Amr bin Shuayb narrating from his father from his grandfather, people have spoken critically about it, haven't they?" He said, "I have seen Ali bin Madini, Ahmad bin Hanbal, Humaydi, and Ishaq bin Rahawayh all rely on it as evidence." I said, "Then what do those who criticize it say?" He said, "They say that Amr bin Shuayb narrated excessively," or words to that effect. He meant that they held against him the sheer abundance of his narrations from his father from his grandfather, but this is not a valid criticism, since he was reliable, and since the narrator from him was also reliable, as is self-evident.Hakim also said, at 2:65, "I have multiplied the arguments in this book for establishing the sahih status of Amr bin Shuayb's narrations when the narrator from him is reliable, and no better arguments than these are cited regarding him. I had been seeking a clear proof for Shuayb bin Muhammad's hearing from Abdullah bin Amr, and I did not arrive at it until this point." He then reported a hadith in which a man asked Ibn Amr, then Shuayb went with him to Abdullah bin Amr by his grandfather Abdullah bin Amr's order, then to Ibn Abbas also by his grandfather's order, then returned with him to his grandfather Abdullah bin Amr. Hakim then said, "This is a hadith whose narrators are reliable memorizers, and it is as good as taking it by hand as proof of the soundness of Shuayb bin Muhammad's hearing from his grandfather Abdullah bin Amr."Ibn Abdul-Barr said in al-Taqassi (p. 255), "The hadith of Amr bin Shuayb from his father from his grandfather is not accepted by most scholars of transmission." He then reported, with his chain, from Ali bin Madini, who said, "Amr bin Shuayb is Amr bin Shuayb bin Muhammad bin Abdullah bin Amr bin As. Amr bin Shuayb heard from his father, and his father heard from Abdullah bin Amr bin As."We have already mentioned, at 147 and 183, something about the chain of Amr bin Shuayb from his father from his grandfather, and we have discussed it in detail in our commentary on Tirmidhi, 140-144, and in our commentary on Suyuti's Alfiyyah on hadith terminology (246-248).His father, Shuayb bin Muhammad, is a reliable follower. Bukhari gave his biography in al-Kabir 2/2/219, saying, "Shuayb bin Muhammad bin Abdullah bin Amr bin As Sahmi Qurashi heard from Abdullah bin Amr, and his son Amr narrated from him. Abu Asim told us, from Haywa, from Ziyad bin Amr, 'I heard Shuayb bin Muhammad say that he heard from Abdullah bin Amr.'"Ibn Saad gave his biography in al-Tabaqat 5:180 and said, "Shuayb narrated from his grandfather Abdullah bin Amr, and his son Amr bin Shuayb narrated from him. So his hadith is from his father, and his father's hadith is from his grandfather," meaning Abdullah bin Amr.In al-Tahdhib 4:356-357, "Ibn Hibban mentioned him among the reliable narrators. Bukhari, Abu Dawud, and others mentioned that he heard from his grandfather, but none of them mentioned that he narrated from his father Muhammad, and no one gave a biography for this Muhammad except briefly. We will elaborate fully on this in the biography of Amr bin Shuayb, Allah willing."I say (the speaker being Ibn Hajar), Ibn Hibban said, among the followers in al-Thiqat, "It is said that he heard from his grandfather Abdullah bin Amr, but that is not correct." And he said, in the generation following that one, "He narrates from his father, his hearing from Abdullah bin Amr is not established as sahih."I say (Ibn Hajar again), this is a rejected statement. I have only mentioned it because the author, meaning al-Hafiz Mizzi, mentioned Ibn Hibban's declaration of his reliability but did not mention this point. Rather, he mentioned that Bukhari and others stated that he heard from his grandfather, that is all.Rather, Shuayb used to call Abdullah bin Amr his father, in the sense that he was his ultimate father and the one who raised him. So, as will come later in the Musnad, 6545, from Thabit Bunani, from Shuayb bin Abdullah bin Amr, from his father Abdullah bin Amr. See also 6549. The hadith will come again with this same chain at 6680. Another hadith with a similar meaning will come by a different route at 6977.Haythami mentioned in Majma al-Zawaid 5:151 the hadith at 6977, then referred to this by saying, "And in a version with Ahmad," then said, "One of Ahmad's two chains is reliable," meaning this chain. See also 132, 4734, 6412.